It's largely experimental R&D.…

It's largely experimental R&D. It can all be done today without a fork, with better security. With the current centralization of mining there's a large attack surface, including a 26% attack that can stop all withdrawals.

The chatter is more about the fork. How forks are added to bitcoin with or without consent, or secretly. That conversation has higher impact, for the future. Similar stuff happened in 2017.

People are figuring out that there must be miner and ecosystem appetite for a change. And that the bar to change bitcoin is quite high.

I believe we can build must of this on nostr, with a group of users or relays for which you just need a 2/3rd honest majority. Once we get a web of reputation going, lots of cool experiments can be tried.